Hi Bill, the tool I was using for Russian is designed to suit a qwerty keyboard and works quite well. I've been having fun trying to translate building names, signs etc while GE 'touring' Russia,- lots of fun and learning as well. You are right with the grammar as most languages have their own unique systems. Russian has odd things like ъ (hard)or b which alter the sound of the letter or the one after it, ш or щ Hard-soft etc. I don't think there is anything which translates precisely, -enough to be understood I think.

It's like English, we have so many ways of describing things, and have letters with different sounds, sometimes governed by the letter after them, ie - and, aunt, auger etc. I'd love to be good at languages like some people who have a natural gift. I'm impressed by a British guy who tours Russia on YT (under the name 'Daily Bald' as he seems fluent in Russian.

If you are interested,- very interesting vids!
(this has boats in it)

(From the language keyboard)--

This online Russian keyboard follows the easy-to-learn AATSEEL “phonetic” keyboard layout, which tries to match Russian letters to QWERTY keys based on sound — for example, п (which sounds like p) is typed by pressing P. The phonetic layout is widely used in the US by Russian translators, teachers, people learning Russian, etc. If you’re looking for the layout that is used in Russia, try this Russian keyboard from Apronus.

JB

Hi JB,

I tried google translate and found it pretty useless for translating and making sense (it would do a direct translation-but not the grammar)
Deepl.com is a good translator especially with grammar, but the only drawback is the more limited number of languages it handles, although they are steadily increasing.

Bill

Those boats are cool!!!

These are our dragon boats Cash😂 🐉⛵🏁NZ

JB

Doug, Had a crack at it in Russian, trying to do it from their alphabet, (not using the translator) and got reasonably close (the y and i had me stumped ie - А БОАТ ЫС А БОАТ ЫН АНИ ЛАНГУАГЕ
(a boat Ys a boat yn ani language) should be ЛОДКА ЭТО ЛОДКА НА ЛЮБОМ ЯЗЫКЕ ? (if you type it in English and translate with google)? but if you type from the Russian alphabet as I did, it comes out almost correct (apart from the y) but totally different in Russian, according to google STRANGE !!!

your translator also comes out as ЛОДКА - ЭТО ЛОДКА НА ЛЮБОМ ЯЗЫКЕ

JB

Yes Sir!! We have box stock and modified classes for those who like their dragon boats hot..😄
“Hot” get it? Like fire breathing?
Bit of a reach y’all that’s all I got 🤣

In my translator that is the Chinese for the Boart from the Ali Express site JB😁
給自己找個更好的翻譯 何 何！
Wadda ya know! Banter with education 😀
Model boats? ... Oh yeah, I remember!!
😎

Hi Cash,
Try this one.
https://www.translator.eu
Just change the languages to Chinese and English
Texan not offered I'm afraid - just print it BIGGER 🤣
祝你好運
Cheers, Doug 😎

If it's a Texan app Cash, it's bound to be huge😂

JB

Dragon yacht race Cash?😁

JB

Re 是的，JB，我當然有 😉
But you need to build a 博阿爾特 😁
切里奧，保持安全！Doug (道格)

什麼是 boalt Doug? LOL

JB

How about this? 🐉⛵🏁 ?

Dang it, where’s my Texan to Mandarin translation app!!?!?

是的，JB，我當然有 😉
But you need to build a 博阿爾特 😁
切里奧，保持安全！Doug (道格)😎

Don't you mean 中止 Doug? 😁😂

JB

See what you mean Cash,-picky picky picky, let's see you write it in Mandarin LOL 😂😂-船

JB

According to the Ali Express blurb it should be a 'boart' Cash! 😮

😁😎

A boat?🤣🤣
Sorry buddy, cheap shot but I had to take it..

Finally received my HV brushed ESCs to try. These can be used with a 4s which is great, as most are limited to 3s. I tested them on my high voltage 550 motors (capable of taking 24v @ 30,000 rpm) with a 3s and a 4s (partially charged at 15.6v) and they both worked fine. Slight glitchy spots (in between steps) if you advance throttle veeery slowly and they jump to full power from around 80%, which is no big deal, (happens to lots of cheaper ESCs) as these are for more powerful boats anyhow.

The reverse/forward action is good, with no real brake action at centre. All that's required is a 1 second pause and you're in reverse/forward, (no frantic jogging required.)😁 The power transferred (output) at full throttle with the 4s was pretty much 100% of the input (15.6v) which was great,- really got the 550 revving. The HV motors used for the test are brilliant,- powerful and very smooth due to twin ball bearings. They are also fan cooled (as are these ESCs,- ESC fans can be unplugged if not necessary, or converted to thermostatic control).

I have 2 sets of HV ESCs and motors now, the question is, what to test them in?

Don't remember now Michael, but that's no great surprise these days! 🤔
Anyway glad it seems to have worked, hope your 'Old Bill Afloat Boat' performs as well as my Sea Scout did with the 16BL30 🤞 Looking forward to the trials vid 😀

Sea Trials vids of my Sea Scout 'Jessica' are in the Media Gallery and my restoration/upgrade Build Blog. The 16BL30 was driving a 30mm Raboesch brass 3 blader through a Propdrive 2830 1000kV brushless. Turned my 'Broads Cruiser' into a Sport Fishing Boat 😮
All the best, Doug 😎

Hi Doug, I have the Hobbywing Quicrun WP 16BL30 Waterproof Brushless ESC and the program card Hobbywing XERUN/EZRUN Program Card C and it works fine in the Police Boat (yet to see water though), It was on your recommendation if you remember Thanks again
Michael

Oh... I think I'll just stick to brushed motors Doug, there's enough to contend with there 😊

Bill

Yep Doug,
Magnifying glass stuff! and in grey which makes it worse.
All round I find the 1060 the best and you are right the last 2 digits are the Amps at Maximum, but the unit is waterproof. ( I have yet to see)
Cheers
Ian

I have both the 60 amp and 25 amp Quicruns, and I can vouch for both their ease of use and reliability. They are well made little units, and are easily set up via jumpers vs the “happy transmitter dance” that so many esc’s use...and, the manual has very few typos, misspellings or incomplete sentences!! It was translated well, and I truly appreciate that. Hobbywing makes good products.👍

For good measure and completeness, here's the op instructions for the Quicrun Brushless range;
16BL30, 10BL60 and 8BL150.The digits after the BL referring to the max continuous current.
As you can see there are 12 parameters that you can fiddle with 😮 but with explanations of what they do and why 😉
Cheers, Doug 😎

"It does come with a decent set up guide but the print is small "
You're SO right Ian👍
So here's a pdf version that you can expand to ease the strain on the eyeballs 😉
It covers the 1060, 860 Dual and 1625 types.
(You can brush up on your Chinese as well 😁)
You will note that the last two digits of the type number refer to the max continuous current.
And I believe them, contrary to many claims from the far east!🙄
Cheers, Doug
PS I made a typo boo-boo earlier 😔
The Brushed ESC where you can't select a direct Forward/Reverse running mode is the 25Amp 1625 NOT 1065! Sorry 🤔

"The 1060 does not need programming but needs to have the Jumpers set correctly"
If I remember rightly that applies to the Quicrun Brushed ESC series and the Programming cards are for the Brushless ESCs.
With Brushless there are a lot more parameters that you can fiddle with!
E.g. running mode, brake rate or OFF, fast or soft starts, motor timing (trade off between torque and rpm), type of battery, LiPo cut off volts etc.
Just to add to the confusion 😁
Cheers, Doug 😎

Hi chaps thank you one and all for the info on the ESC,s especially to Ianh who more or less launched this particular piece and now a few of us are a little more informed.
Cheers chaps stay safe, Jim.

Hi Bill
It does come with a decent set up guide but the print is small

Excellent info Ian, That was going to be one of my questions - if a programming card was needed.
ESC ordered from the UK so I should have it soon.

Bill

The 1060 does not need programming but needs to have the Jumpers set correctly and the transmitter on in neutral before switching on!
I have three of these in Boats and one in a Truck with no problems

My-my, after all that I found one from a UK supplier and they have some left 😊

Hi Everyone,

Many thanks for your replies, I'm definitely going for the hobbywing 1060 esc - I'll find one somewhere 😊🤞, I know what you guys mean about lookalikes and fakes, one of the big 2 mail order firms are full of them - branded as genuine hobbywing products but are so obviously knock-offs.
My search continues.....😊

Bill

"They also do brushless motors and all sorts of other esc’s including I believe some dedicated marine ones."
Quite correct Jeremy 👍 The Seaking series.
BUT: they seem to me to be rather expensive, technically (Amps and power) vastly overrated for most RC usage. Seem to be aimed more at the Offshore Power Boat or, as you infer, 'insane' racers.
For my purposes, scale ships and boats, I find the Quicrun Car/Buggy/Truck series more than adequate and a fraction of the Seaking series prices.
One (or two 🙄) words of warning about the Quicrun series, actually intended for cars and trucks;
Brushed ESCs of the 1060 series: DON'T make the mistake I made of buying a Quicrun1065 for use in a boat. I did, without looking at the small print too closely (was carried away by my enthusiasm for the 860 and the 16BL30🙄), then discovered that it runs Forward/Brake/Reverse ONLY. I.e. you can't switch off the the Brake function like you can with the 1060 and the brushless ESCs. 🤔 Best you can do is reduce the Brake effect to zero, but can't delete it.
Not disastrical but highly irritating coz it means you have to double twitch the throttle stick to go from ahead to astern!😠
ALWAYS buy the appropriate Programming card to go with the Quicrun series motors you want to use.
Dead easy to use, no confusing bleeps and toots counting, and shows exactly what you have set your ESC to do on the card display.
Yes you can find much cheaper ESCs on offer in the almighty Web, some allegedly for less than €5.
But are they really cheaper in use? Reliability? Agro setting up? Replacement cost and agro?
In my experience NO!
Not a risk I want to take any more having invested hundreds of € and who knows how many hours in a model.
A chaque un a son goût!
Cheers, Doug 😎

"I've fitted a Quicrun ESC in my Police boat ..."
Good choice Michael 👍 Which one did you use?
Quicrun are my go to choice for a few years now. Brushed or without! 😉
I don't trust the 'thumbnail' size supposedly X Amp ESCs from Turnigy since I had one (inherited in a PTB I bought) catch fire on the first bench test!
Looking forward very much to your Sea Trial video 😀
Cheers, Doug 😎

"BTW, for newcomers to Hobbywing their ESC range is called 'Quicrun'."
HI Doug I've fitted a Quicrun ESC in my Police boat (nearly complete) and it compared well with anything Hobby KING had to offer.

They also do brushless motors and all sorts of other esc’s including I believe some dedicated marine ones. The dual brushed/brushless esc’s are great favourites with the scale monster truck fraternity which some using anything from stock 540 silvercans up to insane brushless power

Heartily agree Jeremy 👍
My 1/72 destroyer will be refitted using either two 1060s, running a pair of 540s or 550s. Vroom vroom! 😊 Or possibly the HW 860 Dual Brushed ESC, which also handles up to 60A.

As you say HW also do a brushless range, my favourite is the 16BL30 which I have in my renovated Sea Scout. Look for my Sea Scout Jessica Blog on this site. Same waterproof construction and handles up to 30A with ease. Very reliable and not too expensive either 😉
BTW, for newcomers to Hobbywing their ESC range is called 'Quicrun'.
Cheers, Doug 😎

The HW1060 is an excellent choice. It is primarily a car esc but as it is fully programmable by button or card can be set up to work with boats, both NiMh and lipo. Can’t do brushless though. There other HW products that do. I would try to ensure you get fully branded version as there are a lot of clones out there. Oh and it’s waterproof

Hi at the low power end I use these esc's. The ones I have were rated at 10 amps these look very similar but I would suggest to be wary of the 30 amps quoted.

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RC-ESC-30A-4-8V-Brush-Motor-Speed-Controller.

I have 3 in use and bought spares, I run them at about 2 - 3 amps using Marx Super monoperms. I have been very pleased with them especially at low speed.

There is a tiny switch mounted on the board which is to allow for instant reverse as you will need, or for the pause going into reverse that cars have. The switch on the long lead is for the bec for the rx.
You will hear a whine from them in use this is how they achieve the precise speed control. Many esc's use the transmitted 50 cycles for the mark / space speed control but these use about 2Khtz, which you can hear.

You will note the plugs and sockets on them. These are the same ones you find on battery boxes just 2 pin but polarised. So 5 amps max I suggest. You will also need the appropriate ready made leads both male and female. These are available probably same stockist and very cheap.

I use standard Tamiya connection batteries and just have a conversion link wire with Tamiya at one end and 2 pin at the other.

They seem very efficient as they do not even get warm in use and are incredibly small and light in weight. They will run a 385 motor no problem but note voltage limits on esc as 4 - 8 volts.
I was buying them originally for £2.50 each free delivery. It does look like 3 - 4 week delivery time now and I do not know what customs and VAT might do on arrival here.

regards

Roy

Hi Jim,

Had a snooze and I'm in much better form now😊
Thanks for the info, I had a look at that esc and it's absolutely perfect, I've looked at some of their european stockists but no luck so far, but the search continues, it's only for a 385 motor but like you say better to much than not enough.
I think that if I can find a stockist I might get 2 or 3 of them, always handy to have around.

Take care

Bill

Hi Bill, l agree the prices and the delivery times vary so much you could build a second model while waiting for the bits to arrive. I posted a couple of days ago for help to match a couple of graupner 600,s to esc,s a chap Ian posted back a make called hobbywings 1060 he mention they were a little high in amperage than l needed but better to much than to little and they are programmed by jumpers. Like you l trawled the the net was completely fed up after spending a lot of time looking at the same type of esc and not knowing the quality for the price. l ordered two from a supplier in london but they have a delivery of anything up to two weeks.
I just hope they are not on the ship stuck in the suez canal. Good luck Jim.