Hi Dave,
quick question, can I substitute medium CA for UHU Plus Acrylit ? as I have a new bottle of this stuff!
Ed

Hi Dave,
Hi Steve,

Thanks for the info,
I think what I'm going to do is look for Stabilits here in the USA!
but if I have to order it from a retailer in the UK along with the Aeronaut pilot boat!
I already have two tugboats I don't want a third one.
the pilot boat looks as if it will be a heck of a boat on the water! as it has the right configuration of hull for speed!

Steve,
keep those pictures coming, that way I'll have something to look at besides her plans to help me along!

Ed

Morning Ed.
I'm using Bison glue for hard plastic, available on Amazon, for plastic to plastic.
Cyano for tacking and two part epoxy glue and Milliput epoxy putty for gap filling.

Steve

Hi Ed
Stablit can be bought in the UK as UHU Plus Acrylit. Leeds Model Centre (UK) stock. its made in Germany Art No 48315. UHU have a web site www.UHU.com and you should be able to find a source in the USA. The packaging suggests it may be distributed by Bolton Swiss SA, CH6900 Massagno Tel: 091 960 45 90.
Not the cheapest of glues but it makes a really strong joint. When I used to make and fly model planes it was the best glue to use with the plastic to wood joints.
Dave

Hi Steve,

great work, I've been studying her assembly plans and I'm about 95% sure that I'd like to build her. but, now I'm looking in to what glues are available here in the USA! since the plans call for stabilits and so forth. I might just order some kind of glue from CMB
Oh, thanks for the Pictures their really helpful in my decision!
Question what glue did you use?

Ed

Hi Ed
Two pics for you showing the upper hull sides in place.
You will see that the bottom panels, yet to be fitted, are pre-cut to take the prop tubes and rudders, as are the appropriate frames.
Frame 3, counting from the bow, is pre-drilled to take the motors and is also at the correct angle for the prop shafts.
I will be happier once the bottom panels are in place, but I am reasonably satisfied so far.
Have you made a decision to go ahead yet?
Steve

Hi Steve,
Glad to here about the mast!
as for your pilot boat hope all is going well!
as for me still waiting patiently for your updates and pics.

good night!

Hi Ed

It's coming along, but slowly. All I have managed to do is tidy up the re- glued sides and investigate fixing the bottom panels, which looks easier as they do not have to bend so much. I will attach some pics when I have achieved this task.
The good news is that I have rebuilt the mast on my yawl and will be stepping it tomorrow in time for Sunday at the lake.
The white sheet is in fact a polystyrene jig and does come with te kit. There are lugs on the frames (which are later snapped off), which fit into corresponding slots in the jig. This ensures that they are correctly positioned to take the keel and stringers. Makes life a lot easier.
Steve

Hi Steve,
How's it going?
quick question does the white sheet that the frames are on does that come with the kit?
and if so do you glue the frames on to it? to help support the framing.

Steve,
The framing looks terrific, it's the sides that I am worried about!
if you don't start the bow area correctly it's oops and reglue!
good luck on your build and I look forward to you updates!
Ed

Ed
Just finished re glueing and it looks 'ok' from a distance.
If I knew how difficult it would be I would have bought something with a pre formed hull - and I've still got the lower panels to fit!

However, I will press on and keep you informed. I have attached a pic of the hull frame which was quite straightforward. it all went downhill after that.

Speak to you soon.

Steve

Hi Steve,
Sorry to here about the mast on your Model yawl! I know she's your pride and joy!
I thought I was right, about there being to many veriable. regarding the build of the Pilot Boat by Aeronaut!
as you progress in the building of your pilot boat. please keep me informed as I need to make a big decision!
I'm thinking of just sticking to tugboats, haha!

Hi Ed.

Had a bit of a disastrous day. Getting the boats ready for my weekly sail I broke the main mast on my yawl - my pride and joy!

Showing my friend the progress on the pilot boat I noticed that I had not fitted one side properly. This was due to the shaping around the bow, so you are right to be concerned.

I spent the morning unpicking the glue before it cured and making the best of a bad job by re sticking. Things couldn't get much worse when I ran out of glue before I finished. I hope I can redeem the situation!
How I long for the old days of wooden construction when the bow was shaped out of a block of balsa and the plywood sides were steamed into shape before fixing them with Cascamite and brass pins.

I will let you know my progress but I wouldn't blame you if you decided not to go ahead.

Steve

Hi Steve,
I'm patiently waiting for your pictures.
I downloaded the instructions and I've been studying them for the past day or so!
my concern is in shaping the bow area but, I'll see how yours turns out!
then make a decision to purchase or not.
I've been looking at the Dumas San Pedro Push Tug as a possible alternative ! I can't help it I love Tugs.

Hi Ed.
The jig works fine for construction of the frame.
The hull sides come in four sheets of thin plastic, one for each side of the upper and one for each side of the lower.
The upper sides are fitted first and held in place with pre moulded lugs on the stringers (which are later snapped off) and tape.
It is quite fiddly and time consuming to get the sides to fit, particularly round the bow and I have had to use lots of tape.
The glue is curing as we speak and I will let you know the result when I remove the tape later today with pics before and after.

Steve

Good evening Steve, thanks for the info on how your going to setup your boat!
I've heard of these Lipo batteries to me they sound unstable but never the less,
I'll stay with nimh batteries myself!
I'm a little concerned about putting together the aeronaut life boat.
I've never worked on a hull that uses a jib assembly! so I'm going to be asking
you a lot of questions trying to decide if I want to indulge in such a project!
it's assembly reminds me of plank on frame which makes me very nervous!!! ❓

Morning Ed and thanks for the support.
As I said, this is my first venture into electrics so my choice has been very much made on advisement.
I will be using bog standard 540 brushed motors and Viper marine 15 controllers (with the set up button).
I have been advised not to use Lipo batteries as they can be a bit volatile if not handled correctly. I will be using 3700 mah NiMH batteries in a pack of 6 to give me 7.2 volts.
Hope this makes sense.

Steve

Hi Steve, well I for one hope everything work out!
Your model yawl looks outstanding! I was admiring it on one of the other threads.
and yes I will definitely be comparing notes with you!
question what motors and controllers will you be using?

Ed

Hi Ed

Sorry for not realising you lived in the States, I'm still in shock about the fact that half the population of this country have voted to leave the E.U. ! Just hope it doesn't all end in tears.

I'm sure you will enjoy the project. Perhaps we can compare notes in due course?
The Pilot Boat is my first venture into electric power.

I have attached a couple of pics of a project that I have just finished which I am quite pleased with. it is a model of 1930's yawl called Stormy Weather from a kit by Colombini.

Steve

Hi Steve,

Thank for the review! I'm going to send for the kit from CMB I emailed them about how much would be the shipping. see I'm here in the states and I don't know of any model stores in my area that might carry the aeronaut pilot boat! it looks like a fun project I'm hoping to get mine in a few weeks! thanks again for sharing the picture. now I know what I'll be up against looks like fun and I'll stay busy.

Ed

Hi Ed

Yes, I got it some weeks ago from Howes for £145, though I see Puffin Models have them for £135.
The kit is very detailed and of excellent quality with easy to follow instructions.

I have just finished the frame work for the hull and due to the supplied jig and fine laser cutting it was very straightforward. Still plenty of work to do but so far I am very pleased.

I would certainly recommend it.

Steve

Hi Comorant, did you get the Aeronaut-Pilot-Boat, and if so how is the kit? i'm thinking of purchasing it myself for my next project!
Ed

Excellent. They have a few in stock. Bargain at this price.
Dave

Thanks for your help Gentlemen.

Uhu Plus Acrylit (Stablit Express Equiv.) 24ml £7.25 seems the best option and shipping is only £2.50.

http://www.modelshopleeds.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=99&products_id=2697


Uhu Plus Acrylit (Stablit Express Equiv.) 24ml £7.25


expensive ( sort of) but if it does what it says on the tin ......

Hi Steve
An alternative to Stablit Express is http://www.gluelines.co.uk/product/uhu-plus-plus-acrylit-2-component-30g.
Specs re: 2-component adhesive based on methacrylate. it bonds a variety of model building plastics as well as wood, glass and metal.
Application time is 7-10 minutes, initial bonding strength after 15 min at room temperature.
Abradable after 25 min. Gap filling.
Problem is it is supplied from Germany and the postage costs are high. Some model shops do stock and I have used the glue and it does stick plastic to metal/wood etc. Stablit was used on Plastic model planes when I used to make and fly planes and it was essential to form a good bond that would withstand the odd knock. There is probably a H&S reason for its non availability generally in the UK. I have also seen it advertised on Amazon but again at high postage costs.
Good luck with finding a suitable glue
Dave

This comes highly reccommended by the good folk on Model Boat Mayhem ............
http://www.screwfix.com/p/evo-stik-sticks-like-sh-t-clear-290ml/57252

Thanks Shaun. No pun intended with glue not being one of your 'strong' points?
It's a bit of a 'sticking' point with me.
Sorry.

Steve

Hi Steve,

Best of luck with the kit. hope it turns out well. I'm afraid I can't advise you with regard to the glue to use, its far from one of my strong points

Shaun

Hi Shaun

Off to Howes tomorrow to get the kit. I have seen the kit owned by a fellow club member and I am really impressed with the detail and quality of the parts.
One of the glues recommended for ABS to metal is Stabilit express. This costs an arm and a leg, even on Amazon.
Any thoughts on a cheaper, but still reliable alternative?

Steve

HI Shaun

I have since managed to download the instructions from the aeronaut website.
I think the 'plastic' is called depron and there are various items on youtube about bending it. it looks pretty straightforward but I note your concern.
I am still keen and Howes Models sell them for £145.
I plan to visit next week and have a look at the kit.
I will let you know how I get on

Steve

HI Steve,

In My travels around the web I came across this:

http://www.aero-naut.de/fileadmin/redaktion/downloads/en/anleitungen/modelle/3046-00%20Pilot_instructions_en.pdf

I, too was looking at it as a possible purchase (cheapest on the internet at Arrow Models £144-95p, £5 more if you buy it from same Company on E bay), bit nervous about the "plastic" material of the kit so decided to give it a miss. Suppose it would be possible to use the kit as a template to build in plasticard.

Shaun