Thanks guys your remarks are appreciated, next step is to recruit a crew!

It is not easy the Scots will not work for nothing and I had suggested just 3 men but this was rejected they said a proper crew was 6 or 7. I said the similar Norwegian boats have just 3 crew! This met with remarks like absent bosses and exploitation and they needed a proper HR.. So, I am negotiation with some guys who said they would only come out only when the model was on show!
I have the same problem with the crew on my 1934 Americas Cup yacht Endeavour. There are 10 crew including 2 officers and even they are bolshy stating union rules and when they were last paid.
I can't afford many more yachts so am part way through a Customs boat from G'Dansk I have a crew and I said they could keep all the harbour dues from visiting ships and they seen quite happy.
On my slightly larger Lilla Dan (36inches loa) I have under 18s (no unions) group and a French guy but here the mechanic is trying to fix the capstan as the lad has jammed it and the anchor is not lashed down, you get what you pay for. The Mary Ann lads are quite content, but then Norwegian is not my strong point.
It's not easy, with the unions and shop stewards, I am in negotiation with the guys as I have a 3rd. Mary Ann with just the frames and work has stopped on that model for years now. At the last model show there were no figures to buy at all must be getting a better deal somewhere else!
Just making some sails at the moment but the light has gone my fingers are numb and the will to live is gradually going.
Roy

@Ronald
Great pictures Roy.
Thank you for sharing them with us.

@roycv

Got any photos?

I found this read interesting especially after our Scotland trip in 2025. Next trip I will be more educated around the harbours...I hope!

https://intheboatshed.net/2010/01/05/a-beautiful-model-of-a-ring-netter-made-by-jay-cresswell/

https://www.orionmouldings.com/product-page/scottish-ringnetter-kit-1-24-scale

Re- my fishing boat.
I started out not knowing where it came from, but then with a bit of logic, the age of the model. I think probably made about 1960, I enquired with the Scottish Fisheries museum and got a very helpful reply plus a mention of the nearby model boat club plus a scan of a model fishing boat plan.
I enlarged it and thought it looked familiar and there was a registration number CN992 on the model. The Curator at the museum said the issued numbers never got that high. Further enquiry using A.I. revealed it was a Harold Underhill plan, and suddenly looked familiar.

I had his 2 volumes on Plank on Frame construction and in the addendum there were some sample plans and low and behold CN992 was one of them and it was called a Ring Netter.
So it was a scratch built model built in Cockermouth Scotland by a talented modeller who saw these boats on a daily basis, he may even have been a deckhand as the model differs in some detail from the plans.
It is nice to work out the history and the seller had been very kind in agreeing to pack and send the model, I sent her feedback and a photo of the model sailing.
Roy

Best damn website on the internet.👍🏻

Hi Ronald that was what appealed to me as well. I was given some paint / varnish recently and that was called antique pine gloss varnish. Made in UK by 501 paints. It is a difficult colour to create but looks just right.
Thanks for the kind thoughts.
Roy

Hey! Simply fantastic!
Someone asks about one model, and 100 other beautiful ships appear! Discoveries like these always leave my jaw on the floor!!
Perfect—thanks for the great photos!!
Ciao tuitti, Michel-C.

@roycv I like the natural wood look Roy just like the full-sized cousins.

I had an un-started kit of Eileen some years ago but could not fit it into my building schedule due to the plank on frame construction vs. time. Another guy was looking for one and I reluctantly sold my one to him, some regrets but that's life.
Some years later like early this year I bought a nicely made similar fishing boat to a smaller scale that fitted in with the rest of the fleet. It was a decorative model so went through my marinization program, and now sails very nicely.
Roy

@chugalone100 - Yeah! This has been a hot summer and even the shorts was a little too much. No AC in that pilot house (!1950's.) The captain has his privileges' - especially being in the shade.

@Ronald
Ronald, thank you so much for taking the time to share this information and these wonderful photographs!
I really appreciate the effort you’ve made to clarify the history of Hellen and Eileen.
Having access to the original kit drawings and photographs from someone who actually built Hellen is a real treasure for those of us who love these beautiful traditional working boats.

It’s wonderful that you’ve helped clear up the confusion and allowed us to appreciate the differences between the two versions.
Thank you again, Ronald, for sharing your knowledge and for going the extra mile to help us understand the story behind these lovely models.

@LewZ
Beautiful work, Lew! Congratulations on a wonderful model. The detailing is excellent, and she looks just as impressive sailing forward as she does in reverse! 😄

I especially enjoyed the photo of the pilot in the wheelhouse.
He certainly looks comfortable in those shorts! I guess when you're the captain of your own vessel, you can establish your own dress code.
Who needs foul-weather gear when you're sailing in Florida? 😂⛵

And renaming her Elena after your wife is a lovely touch. Fair winds to you and Elena!

Lew a very nice model Col

My "Hellen" renamed Elena (wife). A wonderful sailing boat, forward and reverse!

@jumpugly
Perfect!

Roy!
You hit the nail on the head! Excellent memory!

@roycv
Roy you are correct there were two yhd Hellen and the Eileen but this was the” Hellen” I have it from a good source who built her and supplied these photos. Harry also send me PDF copies of the drawings from the kit.
Hellen (H.96), fishing boat; Model: Harold Hartigan; Photo © Peter Taylor (2010)

Hi the fishing boat may have originated in the now Sarik plan Eileen there is also another kit version of this boat. The name Eileen is the name that springs to mind.
Roy

@jumpugly
Hellen
Kit note the double pointed hull note a rounded stern.

@jumpugly
Yes it is the Hellen

A gentleman from down under feels it is the old Artesania Latina Hellen kit from 1997. I think he nailed it. ;)

Chug and Bryan!!!!!!!!
Absolutely OUTSTANDING builds. Thank so much for contributing and sharing these pix!

@jumpugly
To me, it looks like a type of working or fishing vessel that has been very popular among Brazilian fishermen. Many similar boats are reportedly still active in Brazilian waters today. Vessels of this general type or tradition can also be found in other countries, including Russia, Norway, and Switzerland.

What makes this particularly interesting is the history of working vessels during World War II. Some boats played important roles in supporting the Allied war effort, including transporting ammunition and supplies for the French.
I haven’t yet confirmed whether this particular design was used for that purpose, but it would certainly be interesting to find out.

I’ve attached photographs of *ARTUR, my own version of this type of vessel, which I built myself*. Perhaps comparing the hull, cabin, and working equipment might help someone identify the original boat or the model kit used by the young lady’s late father.

Hopefully, someone in the community will recognize this vessel and help her learn more about her father’s beautiful work. It would be wonderful to help preserve the story behind his model!

@jumpugly Looks like a Clyde Puffer, but not the Mountfleet version like I built (see my profile). Sorry I can't be of further help.

Bryan

Could be a scratch version of the Amati "Fife" or the Billings "Mary Ann," Krick? Interesting