Speed controller

Started by Doogle
15 replies 46 likes Last activity: 3 years ago
#16

Speed controller

CHRISTOPHERH1:
You don't have to wire positve (usually red) to the red dot on the (brushed) motor. The motor just runs a little more efficient that way. Put the negative to the red dot and the motor runs in the opposite direction.
Lew
Florida, USA
Lew
Florida, USA
Home page: https://www.RCFlorida.org/lmb
#15

Speed controller

There she is alright, the Bob's Speed control! I still have a brand new one.

It did work, but not for long. Was great for heating you model.👍
The sure way to succeed is, just try one more time
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#14

Speed controller

Hi everyone.

I enjoyed reading this interesting discussion and all your contributions.
The system is certainly old but it is very fascinating, I understand those who no longer want to use these systems but I also understand those, like Colin, who want to collect them.
If one really wanted, despite all the negative opinions, to use a variable resistor, or a set of selectable resistors, it would at least be better to use fins to better dissipate the heat.
However, only collectors' items remain.
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#13

Speed controller

Hi shipmate!
i`m no electrician but red wire to the positive tag on the motor and green to the negative tag,usually there is a red dot indicating the positive tag.
esc looks like a home made jobby!
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#12

Speed controller

Bottom line is to go modern with the ESCs. Put the old ones on display, in a box, whatever. They are just not usable in a model boat. My first speed controller (circa 1972) was home made and had two 3 position switches. One had power resistors, and the other fwd, stop, and rev. It got quite hot controlling the 6-volt automobile heater fan motor.

Lew
Florida😎, USA
Lew
Florida, USA
Home page: https://www.RCFlorida.org/lmb
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#11

Speed controller

Hello, I also installed 2 mechanical speed controllers in the ocean tug "OCEANIC" Ware. Worked perfectly, but they were power guzzlers and they got hot. That's why I kicked them out. Here's a link to my controllers.

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#10

Speed controller

Over here in Canada, we referred those rheostat friction controllers as Bob's Boards.
They are simple, resistance type controllers, very inefficient, as voltage not used(partial throttle) gets burned off in resistance.
Any of the modern ESCs are digital, and the circuitry allows any unused voltage to be returned back to the battery.
The price of the newer Controllers and reliability makes them the way to go in my humble opinion.
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#9

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If you're disposing of it, my vintage stuff collection would like to have it join the various oddments in the box.
Cheers Colin.
Fair winds and calm waters,
COLIN.
#8

Speed controller

Good evening, the wires go to the sweep arms as in picture. I still have 3 in use from the 70's. Have a tendency to get hot.
Cheers Colin.
Fair winds and calm waters,
COLIN.
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#6

Speed controller

I'd start "dry testing" it. Connect the servo to a suitable output of a RC receiver, apply power to it, and check if the wiper moves when acting transmitter's control. Check movement limits, too. It seems that the wiper can move 180º, but 90º should be sufficient.
If all is OK, you can add a suitable motor and its battery (if different from the one powering the RC receiver). And check if the motor moves, and if speed can be controlled.
Motor shall have the same voltage rating than the output of the battery (don't plug a 6V motor to a 12V battery)
Ángel RODRÍGUEZ, EA4HCN
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#5

Speed controller

Hi Doogle,
What you have there is a Varispeed Board from Bob's Models.
Commonly known as 'Bob's Board'. Still have one in the cellar somewhere.
Took it out of the Sea Scout my Dad built in the early 60s.
ARL is not quite right🤔
The Red and Green wires, going to a Tamiya connector, go to battery + and - respectively.
(Don't forget the switch and fuse!👍)
The motor wires are connected to the two copper wipers driven by the servo.
Attached vid (link) shows how to assemble and wire up the board.
As ARL says they are very inefficient as battery power is dumped into the resistive track at slow speeds. Which heats up the tracks.
Max current is 8Amps if I remember rightly.

Maybe Colin would take it off your hands, for a Bob😉, to add to his vintage RC display?
Cheers, Doug 😎

Young at heart 😉 Slightly older in other places.😊 Cheers Doug
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#4

Speed controller

Thanks Fred and ARL, I'd taken the esc out originally as it wasn't wired in - the wires had been cut, but I don't like throwing stuff out. Thought I could bench test it if I knew what was missing 😕. A photo of the boat it came from 😊
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#3

Speed controller

The ESC is a rheostat operated by a servo. Connections are simple. Thick red wire to Bat. Green wire to Motor (Motor- connected to Bat-).
And the black connector at the end of the three-wire ribbon cable to Radiocontrol receiver, of course.
Rheostats are one of the oldest devices used for speed control of DC brushed motors (don't work with brushless motors). And the most inefficient one. So I'd support Fred's advice.
Ángel RODRÍGUEZ, EA4HCN
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#2

Speed controller

Hi Doogle

That an old Bob's board, if I was you I would clean it and put it on display, and put a new ESC in the boat.

Fred
That's all right, Mr Ryan. My Morse is so rusty, I could be sending him dimensions on Playmate of the Month.
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#1

Speed controller

Hi everyone, help if possible please.
I have this esc, no visible manufacturer on it and came out of a boat I bought for the grand sum of £5. Evidently was working until the wires were cut to the motor. The motor in question did work until it shipped water, think it was 340 brushed. The boat itself was manufactured in France, no other details. So in short, can anyone tell me where the connections from esc to the motor should go. Hopefully the photos are of some use. I think this is possibly a Futabo unit but not sure. Thanks in advance ☺️
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