MODEL FRAMING JIG

Started by jbkiwi
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#29 7
@chugalone100 No problem Julian, it was just a case of looking at their profiles. That in itself tells you that they didn't/haven't made a conscious decision to leave the site. Unlike others that leave because of a disagreement etc. and close their membership and it can longer be accessed.
Scratch building 7 Faireys at a scale of 1:12 and also have 2 built by Dave Milbourn
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#28 8
@ChrisF
Chris, thank you so much for looking into this. I really appreciate it.

It's sad when familiar names suddenly disappear from the forum. Even though we've never met most of these wonderful people, somehow we develop friendships through our shared love of model boats.

I sincerely hope Skydive130 and Peejay are both doing well and simply enjoying life. It would be wonderful to hear from them again someday.

By the way, Chris, do you happen to know anything about Kevin, the gentleman who took over "Mastman Model Boats"? I've been curious about what happened to him and the business.

Thanks again, my friend!
#27 8
@chugalone100

No, I’m sorry Julian, I’ve never spoken with him privately; I have exchanged private messages and emails with some others, but never with him.

I also used to enjoy the contributions from Doogle and Len1, but they haven’t been around for a long time.

As for some others, I don’t see any posts from them anymore, but there are signs that they’re still around, so I’m not worried.
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#25 10
Peejay was last online 10 months ago and is 82 years old. Skydive130 was on the site 2 years ago. Trouble is that unless another member knows members personally then often we don't know why they stop posting/visiting the site. On another forum I rarely visit now some members did know others personally and so were able to let us know if someone was ill or had died or had just given up the hobby due to old age. And I remember on one occasion a member's wife visited the site to give us news. On another I received an email from a wife about a member whom I'd exchanged emails with. In most cases though we just don't know.
Scratch building 7 Faireys at a scale of 1:12 and also have 2 built by Dave Milbourn
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#24 12
@AlessandroSPQR
Alessandro, another great modeler from this forum is *Skydive130*. Some time ago, I tried sending him several private messages but unfortunately never received a reply.

I particularly admire his "Springer Tug".
In his first build-log entry, he mentioned purchasing the laser-cut kit for just £80, including postage, from a gentleman named Kevin, who had taken over "Mastman Model Boats".
Apparently, Kevin had a limited number of these kits available as new old stock, and once they were gone, that was it!

I tried contacting several other members who participated in his build thread, hoping to find out more about the kit, but unfortunately, I had no luck there either.

I liked that little Springer Tug so much that I eventually decided to draw my own plans by hand and started building two of them, with the intention of using them as retrieval boats for my other RC models.

By the way, Alessandro, do you happen to know whatever happened to Skydive130?
I always enjoyed his modeling work and would love to hear how he's doing.
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#23 12
@jbkiwi
JB, what a brilliant idea!

I must say, I'm very impressed with your framing jig. After looking carefully at your photographs and reading your explanation, I can certainly appreciate how practical and versatile this setup is.

What I particularly like is the ability to position and secure the bulkheads accurately, then turn the hull over and continue working without having to struggle with countless pins, clamps, and temporary supports.

I'm seriously considering building something similar for my future projects, although I may use wood instead of aluminum.
I'm not sure I could bend those aluminum angles as accurately as you have!

Thank you for sharing such a clever and useful idea with the rest of us.
This is one of those workshop tools that, once you've built it, you wonder how you ever managed without it!

Excellent workmanship, JB!! 👍
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#22 12
@chugalone100

Yes, there are many forum users who wrote positive posts and contributed their own insights and experience, but whom I haven’t heard from in a long time—and that’s a shame.
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#21 18
Hi Alessandro,

I know what you mean. I came across Peejay's old posting and thought it would be nice to bring it back to everyone's attention.
He certainly left a good impression on the forum, and it's always a pleasure to hear from someone who contributed so much to the community.

I realize it's been four years, and perhaps he no longer visits the forum, but you never know! I certainly hope he's doing well, and it would be wonderful if he happened to see the notification and decided to drop by again.

Let's keep our fingers crossed! 😊
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@chugalone100
Hi Julian, when I saw the notification for your message in my email, I was really happy because I caught a glimpse of the name "Peejay."

It’s been a long time since Peejay last checked in or posted on this forum; I had been worried, and it’s a shame, as I consider him a very positive and engaging user.
So, I was more than happy to welcome him back!

However, I then realized that the last message you replied to dates back four years.
I don’t think he’ll respond, but I certainly hope he does.
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MODEL FRAMING JIG

Another crossbar clamping option. I tried grinding the sides of the anvils and webs off the tops of the small G clamps to see if they could be utilised in the slots, and now they are a bit easier to use. Handy if you can't find the small vice grips. The small G clamps are probably more common.

JB
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MODEL FRAMING JIG

I've thought of a better clamping method, so gave it a try last night. Just milled slots in the cross bars to take the small Chinese 5mm wide long nosed vice-grips,- Much easier ! At $5 each these clamps are cheaper and 100x better than most of the plastic rubbish you can buy now. Much more useful !

JB
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MODEL FRAMING JIG

Hallo Trev!
I have a question for you:
Couldn't you use a picture that corresponds to the time? it's summer and you're still standing there covered in snow! 🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶
doesn't work at all!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
see you soon on this summer channel,
greetings Michel Claude
if you don't ask, you won't get an answer!
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MODEL FRAMING JIG

Hi Mike, the clamps are just cheap clips from coat hangers, (taken off a long square rod) slotted with an angle grinder, and the rod replaced with 3mm bolts to make them a bit more durable. They are a bit thin, but hold most smaller spruce stock. I mentioned these a while back, and you said you had some ex your wifes' clothes shopping. With your gear you should be able to make something more substantial,- these were only a few dollars for 6 hangers from a $2 shop.

JB
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MODEL FRAMING JIG

Looks like a great idea. One thing I have found that makes a great baseboard are pre-finished shelves in the home improvement stores.

Here’s one wit my Dumas Commander.
So many ships . . . and so little time . . .
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MODEL FRAMING JIG

Great idea JB and a good pair of boats to build and test it out on.

Will be following this with interest.

Will
Far too many projects, nowhere near enough time or skill!
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MODEL FRAMING JIG

Nice jig JB, hope that means you will be making plenty more models. Looking forward to the Stiletto build.👍

Graham93
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MODEL FRAMING JIG

After many years of struggling with pins, clamps, bits of wood, lead weights etc, I decided it was time to improve things. I've made up a framing jig system which holds everything in place, upside down and right way up. This was one of my 'plan as you go' projects, so it had a few mods along the way.

I started with the base board, which was cut wide enough and long enough to handle most boats up to 40" (probably up to 50") then made a centerline. On the outside edges I measured a 0 point, and screwed on a 1m length of 25x12x2 aluminium angle to each side. I made up cross bars from the same material, which have a bent down tab to hook over the outside rails. These can be clamped on at any point, and lined up with a measurement on the cheap 4 fold 1m rules glued and screwed to the outside of the rails,- (Graham suggested some nice scales for drafting tables, which read R-L and L-R, for each side, which would be a better look)

At the bow end, I have added bolt on extension legs from angle, to clear the keel rise when the frame is right side up. These can be turned out of the way for normal height if necessary, for upside down use. The keel when right side up, is centered and held with nylon furniture corner brackets I spotted at the hardware store. I milled out the slots on one side of the brackets for adjustment, (found later they were soft enough to cut with a Stanley knife)** and lined them up using a piece of ply the same as the keel, and screwed them down with domed head furniture screws. The keel then just pushes into the brackets to hold it straight.

Upside down, the bulkheads sit on the base -and are blocked appropriately (as this modified Stiletto frame requires, due to the deck sheer). The cross bars are placed with each bulkhead, and the bulkhead squared all round and simply clamped to the cross bars (which have been clamped to the rails) Using this method, all the bulkheads and chine and bottom stringers (and some side stringers) can be glued up, (using a length of baking paper to catch any glue, and stop anything being glued to the base.)

Once dry, you can turn the frame over, and do the same to the top side, (gunwale stringers, deck frames etc) Only takes a few minutes to set up for each side, and using the modified stringer clamps I made, (pic 6) virtually no pins are required.
This jig would be useful for most planing boats, - PTs, Fireboats, crash boats etc, and could probably be useful for displacement boats as well, with a few mods here and there to suit.

I'll be using this to build the next project, which is a modified Stiletto, stretched to Rapier size, with a few changes. It will be a good test for the jig, and I can post any problems I come across, (and mods) while using it .

The best tools I've found for clamping the cross bars to the side frames are the mini long nosed vice grips, but the cheap 1" G clamps I used for a start can have the side webs ground off to be able to get under the cross bars and clamp the tabs. There are better ways to attach the cross bars, but I've tried to do this as cheaply as possible. Once made it should last a lifetime. One good thing is, if you make the base board from say 18-20mm custom board, you can pick the whole thing up with a frame on it, and stand it in a corner if necessary. I've used 12mm which does flex slightly, but it will be used on a flat table so it doesn't matter. With strong clamps, this thing holds rock solid.

JB
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