Veron Vosper 52 FPB Build Instructions and much help for a Novice

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Veron Vosper 52 FPB Build Instructions and much help for a Novice

BTW folks I have been in contact with Colin Smith and he has been super helpful. As they say.... "Couldn't do it without him."
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Veron Vosper 52 FPB Build Instructions and much help for a Novice

As of now, I have an idea of where to go to get the built one re-energised. Thanks. The part built one looks like a major project that I may never find time to do. I know I am only 71 but who knows how long we have.
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Veron Vosper 52 FPB Build Instructions and much help for a Novice

Found this photograph in the 1979 Vic Smeed book 'Model Ships'. The text to accompany the photograph reads - "One of the bigger kits available is this 52" (1320mm) Vosper Fat Patrol Boat for 10cc engines produced by the British firm of Veron".
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Veron Vosper 52 FPB Build Instructions and much help for a Novice

Hi
Further. The Futaba speed controller in the picture was one of the better quality ones for its day and could handle quite a bit of power so if it works should be fine with a brushed motor, but again the Hectoperm will not make the model come onto the plane either in 6V or 12 V format.
Regards
Kevin
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Veron Vosper 52 FPB Build Instructions and much help for a Novice

Hi Andy
This is a great model and iconic in the history of Veron. At 52" it makes a fine model when assembled. It is a scale model of Vosper's Trinity class patrol boat some pf which were supplied to the Malaysian Navy. I am currently refurbishing one. I don't know if you wish to construct scale detail as the size of the model provides scope for this. If you do then a well known model warship company- Fleetscale provide a detailed plan to work from but without construction details. The good part of the model is that the hull when built is very solid and was designed for a 10cc IC engine mounted centrally on the robust keel structure. The superstucture was not so robust and I have taken mine to pieces and re built with more strength and rigidity.

The Hectoperm motor is fine for a scale tug but will only supply enough torque to make the Vosper chug along and will never provide the thrust required to get the beast up onto the plane. To achieve this you will need a large single brushless motor mounted centrally or two medium brushless mounted either side of the keel powered by either Nickel \metal Hydride cells or Lithium Polymer Cells. You will require a brushless speed controller for your motor(s). I have installed two brushed motors - Graupner 900 Speed motors which sadly are now out of production. I have tested the hull and it does plane quite nicely. I have also installed 'Fleetscale' propeller shafts and rudders which are to scale.

It depends really on how much you want to spend. The good news is that radio control gear is now relatively cheap. As I have said the hull size gives you plenty of opportunity to fit the model out. If you were considering a twin motor set up then you will need to think about how they are mounted and not just mount them straight onto the hull skins, but create a mounting frame from the keel to get the right prop angle. Hope this helps and happy to answer any questions.

Regards
Kevin
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Veron Vosper 52 FPB Build Instructions and much help for a Novice

I saw this in another website. Do not know if it is still accurate but it is worth a try.
if you want to know about vernon kits

32 verwood cresent southbourne bournemouth dorset bh6 4je

His son, Colin, is continuing his dad’s work and he apparently can be contacted at: The plans can still be obtained from Colin Smith (the son of Phil Smith who was Veron's designer, in case you didn't know).

Colin's email is:

csmithbmth@gmail.com

Limited boat plans available from Colin Smith, Bournemouth Tel: 07747722724,
give him a ring he has lots of his fathers VERON plans(boats + planes)

Hope this information is correct.
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Veron Vosper 52 FPB Build Instructions and much help for a Novice

Hi Andy
I acquired a built version of your model and will restore at some time. I attach pics of my model to help you with your build. I suggest you ditch all the radio gear and purchase a modern 2.4Ghz set when you commence the build. You will also need to decide on the propulsion, brushed or brushless which will determine the ESC required and also the type of battery. If you want high performance speeds then NimH or Lipo would be preferable to SLA batteries. This really is something you need to research and cost as you will need to buy the correct charging and balancing equipment. These models were popular in their day but the equipment available now is much better. Your prop and prop tube may need servicing and even replacing and the prop should be replaced at the same time. This will be much easier to achieve whilst you are restoring than later. Good luck with the build
dave976
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Veron Vosper 52 FPB Build Instructions and much help for a Novice

Hi Andy Steve has just about covered it, I did a quick google For "plans for Vernon vosper patrol boat", brought up some interesting results, you may be able to purchase a new copy of the plans, however I don't think its too difficult to work out how it goes together as the main body of the boat seems to be almost finished.
I currently finishing a MTB for my grandson and if your not too fussy about being true to the real boat then a bit of builders licence is easy to build in by looking at pictures of other peoples builds
good look and keep asking questions
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Veron Vosper 52 FPB Build Instructions and much help for a Novice

Hi Andy,
I can see what you mean about the plans.
The model looks nice.
The Hectoperm motor is a very good quality motor, I cannot say if it would have enough power to push the model at a high rate of knots, but it would be worth trying.
The speed controller belongs in a museum, personally I would replace it with something that will handle a bit more power, 10 amps is not that much in my opinion.
There are probably other people who can identify the receiver, if it was me I would replace it and get a 2.4 g set, for me preferably with telemetry so battery voltage can be monitored.
Looks like a bit of work to do on the part finished hull.

Cheers,
Stephen.
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Veron Vosper 52 FPB Build Instructions and much help for a Novice

Some Photos. The first one is the state of the build instructions.
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Veron Vosper 52 FPB Build Instructions and much help for a Novice

OK will take photos and send tomorrow. Thanks
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Veron Vosper 52 FPB Build Instructions and much help for a Novice

Hi Andy,
Welcome aboard, there are plenty of experienced people willing to help.
I agree with Mike, some photos is the easiest and quickest way to communicate what is there, the more the merrier.

Cheers,
Stephen.
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Veron Vosper 52 FPB Build Instructions and much help for a Novice

Hello, when I moved into my new house in January 2020 I found some model boats in the loft. I managed to sell two but I have kept the other two as I think the are the same. One is a large FPB - looks like a Vosper Thorneycroft - and is fully built and working albeit it is a in grubby and a bit battered state. I have tested the motor and it turns the prop but there is no transmitter. I know nothing about model boats but fancy trying to get this working with some modern RC equipment. The other one is a part built Veron Vosper Thornycroft 52" FPB. At the moment, the hull has been built mostly but not much else. The rest of the wood is in the box so I think it is all there. The problem is the build plans are decimated and half of them not there so I have no idea how to progress the build. The bit of the plans I can read says that the plastic bits can be bought separately and looking at the built FPB there is a lot of plastic including some of the superstructure. There is also no motor propeller and other hardware in the box. I am currently completely renovating and refurbishing the house so the boat building has to be put aside for the next year or so. But, I am keen to get as much information together in advance. So I need the build plans for one and knowledge of all the hardware required included transmitter for the part built one. For the built one I need to know apart from a transmitter what other hardware I would need to link up with the Futaba stuff currently inside the hull. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks☹️
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