Pity they were never in production Doug - not that many could have afforded them .........

unless they were Gibbs Aquadas ?
Nice😁

Cant beat an old Angle box fitted with a Cortina motor bored out to 85mm (lotus pistons) then 1650cc, Stage 3 head and camshaft , 28/36 down draught Weber........ Frightening to say the least with Anglebox roadholding and brakes..... Gave a few people a long distance lift - for some reason they wanted me to stop in the middle of nowhere.......
BUT along came the Midget in BRG and a handy Lotus Cortina motor & box etc. Would you believe they were lighter than an A series motor & box - even with twin 42 DCOE side draught Webers. Running on Anglebox diff housing and much modified suspension & brakes .That was truly frightening - faster acceleration than the big Healeys fitted with V8's & Jag box plus rear end which was all the rage at the time. Never had the courage to find out what the top speed was........
Before the conversion a Spitfire tried to chase me one night - last I saw were his headlights revolving in the rear view mirror on an almost right angle bend - put me off those for good........

Sounds good Nerys.
Well done Alice "Oakley"!👍👍👍 😉

Hi Nerys,
Well what can I say I'm getting extremely jealous here.
Alice is doing a really fantastic job.
I bet you're really looking forward to getting in there and getting stuck into your model making.
That makes my workshop look like a broom cupboard.!

Martin555.

I reckon Alice is the Annie Oakley of the tool box JB 😊

Thanks Doug for removing the cars.
Alice has all the trusses made for the roof so is quite prepared for our normal (wet) weather. The walls will have a damp proof membrane wrapped around them then covered in weatherboard. Inside, there'll be 50mm insulation then OSB as the inside wall. Probably be cosier to work in there than in the house.

Cheers,
Nerys

Impossible Doug, (unless they were Gibbs Aquadas ?)

Nice sized shed Nerys, - everything is relevant I think, as that's how we get to know about one another in between spurts of building. If everything was in an obscure posting area, probably no one would see it. People can always chip in at any time and get feedback on the current subject and we'll be away again with comments until we run out of steam. BTW Alice must be real handy with a hammer and saw!

Nice wagons JB👍
Thought I recognised the black one.
The Ford Pop was Dad's first car, all bog standard though, in a sort of beige / fawn. Ugh!
I thought he was going to cry when he sold his Douglas Flat Twin to pay for the Pop.
Family legend has it that I was named after that bike.😉
I prefer to think it was from the Gaelic meaning "from the dark water", "an intelligent but modest man ..."😊
Only Avenger I ever drove was hired from a garage in Norfolk, who were putting new big ends in my Minx☹️.
Very basic noisy, underpowered uncomfortable thing. Still, it rattled and clanked me from Staines to Twickenham and back for a week.
That Vauxhall must be worth a small fortune these days.👍
😎

Was just talking to a nice couple about 6 months ago, living in a rough old Subaru legacy SW on the next beach round from us. There was also a guy living in a Nissan Terrano at the same beach with all his gear, (boats etc ) on a big trailer. The first couple were hoping to move up to a van if they could get enough money together.
Sad really, especially in this country. These Govt dickheads have no idea and carry on with their grand housing schemes (present morons came up with a 'Kiwi Build' scheme to build 10,000 houses in 5 yrs,) - they've managed to get 300 done in the last year!!😭😭😭 because they didn't allow for lack of builders, and they want to import some ???!!! where the hell are they going to live,- not enough houses for us! There are thousands of containers lying round the country which could be turned in to perfectly good temp accommodation, but no, the councils won't allow it so people have to live in cars and sheds! intelligent thinking wot?!
The Kiwi Build houses are supposed to be for young first home buyers but are around $700,000 so out of their reach for a start. They have even bought existing spec homes from builders and tried to include them in the 10,000, but got found out! Prime ministers' just a waffling photo op show pony and full of crap along with the rest of them. They have even bought motels to people in and housing people in others??!!
Very quickly becoming 3rd world (and we used to have one of the best standards of living in the world 30yrs ago!) Problem is, they let all the immigrants in with money (ie Chinese) who bought up all the spare houses and now they are stopping o/s buyers but it's too late, (Chinese have bought a number of our biggest farms as well)

Cars deleted Nerys 😉
Seems they came all the way from New Zealand!😮

"Re my last post, I don't know where the cars came from"
I've noticed this phenomenon lately too Nerys!
Seem to get stuck in the server cache somewhere when posted by another member.
Maybe if both are posting at the same time!?

Congrats to Alice👍
But she better get the lid on, or at least a tarp before the next monsoon🌧️🌧️🌧️, or the walls might swell up like sponges!🤔
Cheers, Doug

Ouch! Twice!
So the Micro Miller (like mine?) is around €420.

ref the plane Shit happens 🤔
😎

Sounds good Doug,! had my 1958 Ford Popular with Hillman avenger 1500 motor and box with Weber and extractors, HA Viva independent front end, rack and pinion steering, Anglia diff on parallel springs, built 1975. 1933 Vauxhall ASXSA 14/6 with EK Holden motor and box, front hubs and diff (converted to hydraulic brakes) built 1972. Also my old 75 Avenger Alpine (TC) super reliable. Fine British motorcars, they don't make em like that any more! (some might say thank Christ for that!)

Re my last post, I don't know where the cars came from, they're nothing to do with us.

Nerys

I never thought I would be posting photos of a shed on a model boat forum, but these are relevant. They were taken a few minutes ago. Alice has never built anything like this before. In model terms, it's scratch designed and built. She is not taking orders as she is going to build it's twin once this one is finished (and she's recovered.)

Cheers,
Nerys

Apparently has been the case in Sweden ? for years. They get paid such good money they just rent rather than buy, (item on TV here a few years back)

Just checked Hobby city, (main hobby shop in Auckland) AAAAARGH, some prices- mill drill $450, 24108 miller $2103, 24350 miller, $5398, 27110 micro miller $720, CNC ready miller $7802 ! and these are bare machines which need the 'accessories to be able to do anything with them. A bit beyond my meager finances methinks, could almost buy a Triumph 2000 lathe for that much second hand . (had a quick look and found a Bridgeport power feed mill for $7200. Try- Hobby city.NZ -should get you there. Bet they don't have them in stock and you have to wait 3 months (if you are lucky)
Pics of Hobby city owners plane before and after. Decided he'd had enough and turned it into a submarine at high speed. SA guy, previously represented NZ in world precision flying comps (second) shame, very clever guy and nice with it. You never know!

"We have a lot of people living in cars "
Astounding! Not quite the image we get of NZ from up here!

That said, apparently there are now around half a million homeless here in Germany - the richest country in Europe!🙄 Many 'living' in cardboard boxes under bridges☹️
Refugees get warm rooms and pocket money! At least until they can learn German and fend for themselves.

Was afraid of that ref the lathe freight charges🤔 But there must be an Asian equivalent in your neck of the woods?

You Betcha JB👍
My second car was a Herald 948 saloon.
Bought extremely tired for peanuts, after I had screwed up and thrown away my souped up Hillman Minx on black ice in Thetford Forest😭
Engine was crap and all wheel bearings, UJs suspension mounts were shot.
But at least the body and chassis were sound, if painted a ghastly lilac / purple 😝
Sooo ...
Out with engine and all suspension. Clean up and respray light blue metallic.
Walnut dash from a Vitesse fitted with extra instruments. Front seats changed for Recaro.
Front suspension and disc brakes from a Vitesse fitted.
All other bearings and rubbers renewed.
1360 engine and gearbox acquired (😉), gas flowed and fitted with twin Strombergs.
Getting the jets and needles right was the trickiest bit of the whole exercise.
But at the end I had a nice quick Street Sleeping Meany 😁 Lottsa fun.
😎 No photos made I'm afraid.

But we have to go to mill 24 hrs a day, eat cold gravel..... Our average wage is pretty slack here so it's probably all relative. Average house here is probably 2-3 bedrooms, 100-120 M2 Mine's 100, ex 1949 batch with newish addition (originally about 60M2). A lot of 2 bed 'units' (usually in blocks of 2-4) with shared drive and many with no garage for 6-900K. Lot of 'chicken box' city apartments, (some only 1 room) for 500k upwards etc
. We have a lot of people living in cars as they can't even afford to rent (average rent for 2 bed house, $4-700 PW (more than most people can earn solo) and you still have food, transport, ins power. water etc.

Will have a look Doug but I think the freight to Middle Earth would be prohibitive. Re T2000, you'll love these then (had them 23yrs ago) The herald was a 1200 which I fitted with a 1360, brilliant smooth little car, -GT6 I bought a bit tired and repainted (same with the herald).

Sorry to hear the reason for the switch Nerys!
But glad to hear that Alice is doing her magic again😊
And without a Round Tuit this time👍 Hat off Alice!
18x10ft sounds quite luxurious😮
My L shape workshop occupies about 2/3 of the roughly 4x4m kitchen.
Not counting a 2 1/2m bench in a niche down in the cellar for the "rough" stuff.
Are you thinking of building a barge at 1/4 scale? 😉
All the best to you both.
Cheers, Doug 😎

Sold a house in 2000 for R450k - the buyer sold it again just over a year later for R2.2m. House prices got totally ridiculous here - now in a slump again - niece & husband sold their house for R12.5m a few years ago - its now on the market for R7.5m....
So we rent - rental houses much in demand - seems most rather rent than buy - where we live it seems every 3rd house is for sale - mostly holiday homes though.
As to the Yorkshireman - told my daughter i had to walk seven miles to school through the snow every day - took her quite a while to realise I grew up in the tropics......

Looking forward to seeing the photos Nerys.

Martin555.

A few months ago, we lost our spare room workshop to my kidneys who decided they needed to be dialysed four days a week in said room. However, my lovely resourceful Alice is in process of building us a new one in the garden. Fully compliant with regulations. It is 18ft. x 10ft, well insulated, officially a shed, but more like a garden room. Walls are up, being clad at the moment, roof will be going on in a few days. I'll post pictures when we take some.

Nerys

Correct Rooky👍
It's still the same.
You need to be a millionaire to buy a house, or even a decent size flat, in the cities.
Out in the sticks there are some cheaper alternatives, but then you're stuck!
Poor infrastructure, one bus a day if you're lucky, no broadband, doc miles away 😭 etc etc.
Without a car you're lost. Anywhere within reach of the Munich Schnellbahn (Rapid Transit) network is just as expensive as here in town, if not more.
Sold my 1860s cottage in Sandhurst when I came here. Big mistake.☹️
Even back then I soon discovered that with the proceeds I could probably afford the ground to put up a garden shed here! C'est la vie, c'est la Guerre!
Cheers, Doug 😎

As I remember when I was in Munich at friends many years ago Doug, most Germans did not buy their home, but rented, is that not the case anymore?😐

Peter(rooky)

"the average price in most of NZ cities/towns is close to 1 mill"
For a house? Well I'll go t' foot of our stairs!😉
That's about €580k. If you're lucky you might get a two room flat around 75m² for that here in Munich, and most other German cities. Landlord offered me my little (73m²) maisonette, third of it underground, for €485k coupla years ago!😂😂
Just call me Rockefeller!😉
😎

"Think I paid around €150 for my little lathe back then."
Sorry😔 typo! I bought my FD150 from Conrad here in Munic, Price €450 !
Conrad is always a bit pricey, but they deliver super pronto, usually next day!
Just found the same thing in Ozzy Land for AU$999, about €600.🤔
Tried the supposed NZ retailer, Hobby city in Auckland, result "Server not found" 😠
Ho hum! 🙄
😎

"We had a Triumph 2000 (lathe not car)"
Be happy about that😊
The T 2000 had an irritating habit of blowing it's head gasket, just like the Stag☹️
Google / Fleabay around for the Proxxon JB, you might be surprised 😎

My granddad's pal/neighbour had an engineering workshop in his Glasgow tenement flat (ground floor)from 1945 until he passed away in the mid 70s he used to do sub contract work for D&W Hendersons shipyard don't know what the Corperation thought as it was a council house .I remember there being a big Colchester lathe and a milling machine and a pot arc welder,thought I should mention he was single and the house smelt of coolant my grampa used to do a lot of welding for him.

Won't be showing my grandson this picture he'd definitely want one🏎

Sold that quite a few years ago as he is now 26 and 5'10" . I built that when he was 3 and we took it to Fiji with us when we moved there for 2 1/2 yrs. Brought it back and he used it till he was 12 and playstation took over.

No matter what we have we are still 1000 times better off than millions of people in under developed countries who don't even have a house, let alone a spare room to work in. I was lucky to buy my house when I did (market bottomed, worst house in a good area etc) and 10yrs later I'm still working on it!. I pity young people today, as the average price in most of NZ cities/towns is close to 1 mill, and they struggle to even get deposits now, and if they do get in, the mortgage is enormous!
My sons' SA friends' father, has a complete full on machine shop under his house ( he builds big scale steam trains) and every time I've been there it makes me drool, mills, lathes, welders, plasma cutters etc, makes my small workshop look very shabby.
Most of my tools have been bought on specials or sales etc (eg, was recently doing some plaster board work in the house and found an AEG wall board screw driver, - normally $265 but marked down to $98 on clearance at our local mega Bunnings hardware store. It was a bargain and makes any driving job super easy and will outlast me.) I hardly ever pay full retail if I can help it, and I'll usually stand there talking myself into it for an hour, ("if I only eat half as much next week I can afford it" ) etc.
I could not live without tools and have been collecting the necessary ones since I was 12 yrs old (plus being a car and bike fanatic made it compulsory).

Your A man of many talents JB.
He looks like he is enjoying it.

Martin555.

Perfect hobby machines, I'm in the wrong country!. We used to have a lot of small new lathes for sale here in machinery outfits for around $1200 NZ but I haven't seen any for a while. I could do with a small lathe especially for boat stuff. We had a Triumph 2000 (lathe not car) and a Bridgeport mill and all the gear when I was in the site services dept in the big woodworking co I worked for.
I made good use of those, plus in my workshop I had 2 German RS2000 tool grinding machines which were great for touching up all your router bits and saw/ planer blades etc and a Chinese mill which I reco'd when the other guys didn't want to use it. Made my sons cars' frame and running gear (all 10 speed bike gears modified etc', -everything adjustable for growth) while I was there . Sure great if you have the gear!

That is just greedy.
A hole house and a man cave.!!!

Martin555.

I'm back! 😊
Keep the cheers down a bit lads (and lass😉) think of the neighbours😁
Switched on the PC and spent half an hour or so twiddling me thumbs while the latest MS cock up patches were downloaded and installed!🙄
"Configuring Windows DO NOT switch off computer - or throw it out the window!!"
Didn't get the fence wood either🤔 Everyone else, his brother and his dog had the same idea to go to the DIY centre today☹️
Did get the groceries though, so now off to make me a chicken Madras! 🔥
CU later 😎

Very nice indeed,
If I was fit enough I would go and get a lottery ticket and start praying LOL!

Martin555.

"Wanted to show a pic but I have forgotten how to copy from my cellphone and put on new MB website."
Hi Tertius,
don't know how you'd do that just using the phone, but ...
If you connect it to your PC via USB it should appear in your Explorer as an external drive.
Then just copy pics to a directory on the PC and go from there as usual.
Be sure to use a USB cable provided by the phone manufacturer.
Other cables may be OK for charging, but not for data transfer.🤔
If your PC doesn't recognise the phone try another cable.
Cheers, Doug 😎

"Nifty little lathe,- Proxxon- looks German? "
Correct! (Richtig😉)
https://www.proxxon.com/en/micromot/24150.php
The little milling machine is also Proxxon.
https://www.proxxon.com/en/micromot/27110.php
There's also now a CNC ready version - There wasn't back then 😭😭
https://www.proxxon.com/en/micromot/27112.php
Might invest in the MICRO compound table KT-70/CNC-ready!
to upgrade my manual job!
They have a range of bigger versions as well
https://www.proxxon.com/en/micromot/precision-lathe-and-milling-systems.php
Not the cheapest around, but built like the proverbial brick "whatsit" house😉
Google / Ebay around, should be able to find some at reasonable prices.
Think I paid around €150 for my little lathe back then.
The miller around €90.
Happy machining folks, don't forget the goggles🤓
Cheers, Doug 😎
PS Odd!? Someone else's pics keep creeping in?? A new phenomenon!😐

"we used to have to work in cardboard box on rubbish tip."
Eee bai gumm! Yooo were looky - we 'ad t' live AN' work in caterin' pack bean tin in t' middle of rode. In winter we were so cold Grandad sucked a Trebor mint and we all sat roun' warmin' our 'ands on his breath.

A TREEEBOR mint! Ecky thump! Yoooo were looky ...... 😂🤣😎

With agopolies to our northern colleagues 😉

This is worth a look as well, interview with John Cleese with some clips 😂

Here's my downstairs man cave, bit untidy as was having a big clean out Bike went to the op shop). Have hand tools, power tools, vice, large Taiwanese Lux drill/ mill, welders etc in one end, a large industrial drill and vice down the end of the garage on another bench, (drill painted by my son when he was about 12,)-drill looked a bit sad when we bought it but came up well with a scrub and a bit of paint. Was 3 phase but I converted it to single phase as I don't have 3 phase on the house. I bought most of the heavy tools years ago as I was making boat trailers, modifying cars etc.
The most useful tool I have is an Austrian Emcostar multi purpose machine, (if you ever see one cheap grab it!) it has a bench saw, band saw, disc sander, belt sander, and jigsaw all in one (plus other attachments are available, (ie wood lathe attachment.) You can tilt it horizontal for the sanders and saw, or flip it up and use the bandsaw (and disc sander). All the functions are engaged with dog clutches and everything tilts or adjusts in one way or another. Whoever designed it should have got a medal for being a bloody clever bastard!
A guy at work gave it to me as he wasn't using it and it was down the back in his garden shed!
My main modelling cave is upstairs in whatever room I want, (missus lives elsewhere😊😊😊) I just do the really dusty stuff downstairs, (painting, sawing sanding etc) Problem is I have to go outside to get there, (pain if it's raining) Aircraft hanger -(ceilings in 2 rooms plus wall rack in another) I used to have one plane left 11 yrs ago, and was very happy until a guy at work started giving me his write-off planes and got me started again, now have 18 + 6 boats and need serious help! -certainly don't need what Martin's on , I'd be 10x worse!

This is starting to sound a bit like the 4 Yorkshiremen😂 "a workshop, you were lucky to have workshop, we used to have to work in cardboard box on rubbish tip. Rubbish tip! you were lucky.............

Hi Joburg,
I have never transferred a photo from a phone but I think if you email it to yourself and then open it up on your PC you can then copy or save it in your photos.

Martin555.

Nifty little lathe,- Proxxon- looks German? (lathe on shopping list when house and everything else is finished)

Nice shed but where's the bar going?

I did the PC keyboard idea some while ago.Wanted to show a pic but I have forgotten how to copy from my cellphone and put on new MB website. Any help appreciated.